I will be taking part in a radio show about the Zodiac Killer late tonight.
More info about this show- http://www.fringeradioshow.com/
You
can listen love Monday night 3/3/14 11pm Pacific(3/4/14 2am eastern) via this
link: http://www.k-talk.com/
And
you can call in during the show at- 801-254-5855
Full details at- http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=1454
Monday, March 3, 2014
Tuesday, January 28, 2014
Letters from Zodiac?
Recently, on www.zodiackillersite.com, we discussed some of the unconfirmed Zodiac letters, letters that may be from the Zodiac Killer, but so far, have not been positively connected.
Two of the letters most discussed are the 'Bleeding knife of Zodiac' & 'This State is in Trouble' letters. These were mailed together 12/16/69, and were postmarked from Fairfield, CA.
These may have been sent by Zodiac in time for the one year anniversary of his first confirmed attack on 12/20/68.
Personally,I have been on the fence as to whether they are really from Zodiac or not, but recently, I am leaning towards them being from the real Zodiac, and NOT a copycat or hoaxter. Most people that view these mention that they don't look much at all like the Zodiac's confirmed writing, and that is true, but if you want to make somebody think you are mailing a real Zodiac letter, then you make it look as close to the real thing as possible. There is some suggestion that Zodiac practiced the altering of his handwriting,and may have disguised it at times, and these letters may be evidence of that. In fact, the FBI could not rule these letters out as being authored by Zodiac.
A moderator,Seagull, at my website, was able to find this news story-
Fresno Bee
Dec 20 1969
Page 1
"Zodiac" 10 Are Marked For Murder
SAN JOSE (AP)- The Highway Patrol station here reports receiving a telephone call from a man identifying himself as "Zodiac" and threatening to kill five patrolmen and a family of five by Monday.
Sgt. Robert Rengstorif said he took the call at 10:10 p.m. Friday from a man who told dispatcher Shirley Searcy he was "the Zodiac" and wanted to speak to the man in charge.
Rengstorif quoted the man as saying:
"I am going to kill five of you officers and a family of five between now and Monday."
The patrolman said the call was not recorded and there is no way of knowing who it came from.
A killer who calls himself Zodiac first struck a year ago in Vallejo and has killed a total of five persons.
His last known communication was a month ago in two letters addressed to the San Francisco Chronicle.
Based on the phone call containing the threat against cops, and the mention of San Jose, and the fact the call came in almost the exact time the letters were mailed, I have no doubt that the caller & letter writer are one and the same. The question is, is that person Zodiac?
To join the discussion and share your ideas, or theories, please visit the following links:
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewforum.php?f=74
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewforum.php?f=71
http://www.zodiackillersite.com
Two of the letters most discussed are the 'Bleeding knife of Zodiac' & 'This State is in Trouble' letters. These were mailed together 12/16/69, and were postmarked from Fairfield, CA.
These may have been sent by Zodiac in time for the one year anniversary of his first confirmed attack on 12/20/68.
Personally,I have been on the fence as to whether they are really from Zodiac or not, but recently, I am leaning towards them being from the real Zodiac, and NOT a copycat or hoaxter. Most people that view these mention that they don't look much at all like the Zodiac's confirmed writing, and that is true, but if you want to make somebody think you are mailing a real Zodiac letter, then you make it look as close to the real thing as possible. There is some suggestion that Zodiac practiced the altering of his handwriting,and may have disguised it at times, and these letters may be evidence of that. In fact, the FBI could not rule these letters out as being authored by Zodiac.
A moderator,Seagull, at my website, was able to find this news story-
Fresno Bee
Dec 20 1969
Page 1
"Zodiac" 10 Are Marked For Murder
SAN JOSE (AP)- The Highway Patrol station here reports receiving a telephone call from a man identifying himself as "Zodiac" and threatening to kill five patrolmen and a family of five by Monday.
Sgt. Robert Rengstorif said he took the call at 10:10 p.m. Friday from a man who told dispatcher Shirley Searcy he was "the Zodiac" and wanted to speak to the man in charge.
Rengstorif quoted the man as saying:
"I am going to kill five of you officers and a family of five between now and Monday."
The patrolman said the call was not recorded and there is no way of knowing who it came from.
A killer who calls himself Zodiac first struck a year ago in Vallejo and has killed a total of five persons.
His last known communication was a month ago in two letters addressed to the San Francisco Chronicle.
Based on the phone call containing the threat against cops, and the mention of San Jose, and the fact the call came in almost the exact time the letters were mailed, I have no doubt that the caller & letter writer are one and the same. The question is, is that person Zodiac?
To join the discussion and share your ideas, or theories, please visit the following links:
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewforum.php?f=74
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewforum.php?f=71
http://www.zodiackillersite.com
Friday, January 3, 2014
A big clue in the case of the Zodiac Killer, from a comic book of all places?
At my forum, www.zodiackillersite.com one of my long time Members, and site Moderator, 'TAHOE27', may have found a big clue related to Zodiac's Halloween card that he mailed to reporter Paul Avery in October, 1970. The Halloween card was a standard Hallowen card of the time, with a few 'additions' created by Zodiac to scare Avery. Zodiac wrote "you are doomed" (in the hole within the tree). He also included an odd symbol, and on the back of the card, a message that mentioned the various ways he could presumably kill people, By Knife, By Rope, By Fire, By Gun.
Over the years, many people have tried to explain the meaning of the card, the symbol, etc, but it was all open to speculation. First of all, the Zodiac had placed several eyes on the card. A day or two before Zodiac mailed this card, a female was found murdered in the Presidio Heights neighborhood of San Francisco. Her eyelids had been sadistically sliced off. I personally think that Zodiac included the eyelids on the card, and mailed it card immediately after the body was found, so that police would think he had killed her, afterall, it was the same neighborhood in which Zodiac had killed cab Driver Paul Stine, the October before. It was not long before the Police identified the female victim as a prostitute,and her Pimp was found to be responsible for her murder, NOT the Zodiac. Although the eyelids may have been easy enough to explain away, the other clues on the Halloween card, were still of interest.
Regarding the odd symbol, that resembled a combined Z&F, with 4 dots sorrounding the center, Author Robert Graysmith, in his book, ZODIAC UNMASKED, noted that the sybmol was a close match to the cattle brand symbol used by Fred Harmon, a Rancher from Pagosa Springs, Co. (Top right of the photo below)
Fred Harmon was associated with a comic book based on his western experiences. In December, 2013, TAHOE27 discovered that there was possibly yet another connection between Fred Harmon & Zodiac. In one comic,there is a 'wheel of doom'. The DOOM part is interesting of course because of Zodiac using that word in his threat to Avery. But even more striking, is what the wheel of doom looked like in the comic book. It closely matched Zodiac's clues involving knife,rope,gun,fire.
In 44 years, nobody before Tahoe27, had found a clue like this regarding the Halloween card. This proved that Zodiac used a clue that closely matched Harmon's cattle brand symbol in the Halloween card, and in addition, had used the 'wheel of doom' comic, as inspiration for his card as well. The question is, why did Zodiac reference the comic book, and cattle symbol? Was he somehow connected to Fred Harmom or his ranch? Was it a clue of some sort? When Zodiac attacked at Lake Berryessa in 1969, he mentioned to surviving witness, Bryan Hartnell, that he had escaped from a prison,after killing a guard. Although it has long been believed by many people that the prison referenced by Zodiac was Deer Lodge Prison, in MT, other sources have mentioned that the prison was actually in Colorado. If so, was it close to Fred Harmon's ranch? Did Zodiac have ties to that area?
The connection regarding the symbol, and comic book between Zodiac & Fred Harmon, raises more questions than answers, but one thing is hard to deny, there IS a clue there someplace.
Over the years, many people have tried to explain the meaning of the card, the symbol, etc, but it was all open to speculation. First of all, the Zodiac had placed several eyes on the card. A day or two before Zodiac mailed this card, a female was found murdered in the Presidio Heights neighborhood of San Francisco. Her eyelids had been sadistically sliced off. I personally think that Zodiac included the eyelids on the card, and mailed it card immediately after the body was found, so that police would think he had killed her, afterall, it was the same neighborhood in which Zodiac had killed cab Driver Paul Stine, the October before. It was not long before the Police identified the female victim as a prostitute,and her Pimp was found to be responsible for her murder, NOT the Zodiac. Although the eyelids may have been easy enough to explain away, the other clues on the Halloween card, were still of interest.
Regarding the odd symbol, that resembled a combined Z&F, with 4 dots sorrounding the center, Author Robert Graysmith, in his book, ZODIAC UNMASKED, noted that the sybmol was a close match to the cattle brand symbol used by Fred Harmon, a Rancher from Pagosa Springs, Co. (Top right of the photo below)
Fred Harmon was associated with a comic book based on his western experiences. In December, 2013, TAHOE27 discovered that there was possibly yet another connection between Fred Harmon & Zodiac. In one comic,there is a 'wheel of doom'. The DOOM part is interesting of course because of Zodiac using that word in his threat to Avery. But even more striking, is what the wheel of doom looked like in the comic book. It closely matched Zodiac's clues involving knife,rope,gun,fire.
The connection regarding the symbol, and comic book between Zodiac & Fred Harmon, raises more questions than answers, but one thing is hard to deny, there IS a clue there someplace.
Friday, November 15, 2013
Thursday, November 14, 2013
A Draft Dodger, or the Zodiac Killer?
Just when I thought i had exhausted all hopes of obtaining any more previously unreleased questioned documents from the Zodiac case, I was pleasantly surprised when I found a letter in my mailbox from the Department of Justice. The mailing contained a previously unreleased document that I had last requested several months ago, after not successfully receiving it in the past. The letter/postcard had been postmarked from the San Francisco Bay area, and mailed to the Rochester, NY Draft Board in March, 1968.
The letter itself was filled with misspelled words, references to using drugs, and odd drawings. Like many of Zodiac's mailings, the document included two stamps. Not much is known about this letter, who wrote it, or how & why it made it's way into questioned Zodiac case documents, especially because it was authored and mailed to the Draft Board in March, 1968 Nine months before the first confirmed Zodiac murders, and almost a year and a half before the first confirmed letter written by Zodiac was received by the press.
You can view more opinions, and ideas about the letter here-
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=1086
So far, opinions and thoughts about the letter are mixed, some similarities noted as well as some differences too.
The letter itself was filled with misspelled words, references to using drugs, and odd drawings. Like many of Zodiac's mailings, the document included two stamps. Not much is known about this letter, who wrote it, or how & why it made it's way into questioned Zodiac case documents, especially because it was authored and mailed to the Draft Board in March, 1968 Nine months before the first confirmed Zodiac murders, and almost a year and a half before the first confirmed letter written by Zodiac was received by the press.
You can view more opinions, and ideas about the letter here-
http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=1086
So far, opinions and thoughts about the letter are mixed, some similarities noted as well as some differences too.
Friday, October 18, 2013
Thursday, October 10, 2013
Paul Stine, 44 Years Later
Tomorrow, 10/11/13, marks the 44th Anniversary of the Zodiac Killer's murder of San Francisco Cab driver, Paul Stine. Usually, anniversaries are a reminder of good events, and memorable times,but in the Zodiac case, the opposite is true.
Paul Stine picked up Zodiac somewhere in the theater disctrict in SF, and entered the destination in his log book as Washington & Maple, but for some unknown reason, wound up at Washington & Cherry instead. When he put the car in park, Zodiac shot him point blank in the head, killing Stine instantly. Zodiac then got out of the car, and opened up the passenger door and proceeded to tend to something in the front seat, ultimately taking Stine's wallet & keys. At this time, some kids in a house across the street saw the aftermath of the shooting, and saw Zodiac himself, who appeared to be wiping down something around the cab. Zodiac then walked off around the corner, and out of site. The kids called police, thinking the cabbie had merely been robbed or beaten up.
Patrol cars quickly swarmed the sorrounding streets and area,and not long after, a police dispatcher put out a description of the perp, as an NMA(negro male adult). But that description was somehow a mistake,and in reality, the perp was white,stocky, had a crewcut style haircut,and black horned rim glasses. Before the correction was made over the radio however, two police officers driving down nearby Jackson St, saw just such a man. They claim that they slowed down, took a good look at him, and since they were looking for a black male, they continued on. It was only a moment or two later that the Zodiac's description was corrected and broadcast over the police radio, and it was only then that the Officers realized that they had just seen the Zodiac. They went back, but he had now vanished into the night, probably in the wooded area sorrounding the military base, the Presidio. At the time of the murder, police had no idea that they were looking for the infamous Zodiac killer, and thought the attack was the result of a robbery gone wrong. All of that would change two days later.
On October 13, two days later, the Zodiac mailed a letter to the SF Chronicle detailing Stine's murder, and even including a bloody piece of Stine's shirt as proof he was the killer. Zodiac would also write that he actually was pulled over by police as he escaped on foot, and questioned. Police to this very day,deny that Zodiac was ever stopped by them. Although he was never caught, the infamous Zodiac sketch was the result of the police officer's, as well as the eye witness description of Zodiac.
Washington & Cherry, the scene of the murder of Paul Stine
Zodiac Killer Victim, Paul Stine
Paul Stine picked up Zodiac somewhere in the theater disctrict in SF, and entered the destination in his log book as Washington & Maple, but for some unknown reason, wound up at Washington & Cherry instead. When he put the car in park, Zodiac shot him point blank in the head, killing Stine instantly. Zodiac then got out of the car, and opened up the passenger door and proceeded to tend to something in the front seat, ultimately taking Stine's wallet & keys. At this time, some kids in a house across the street saw the aftermath of the shooting, and saw Zodiac himself, who appeared to be wiping down something around the cab. Zodiac then walked off around the corner, and out of site. The kids called police, thinking the cabbie had merely been robbed or beaten up.
Patrol cars quickly swarmed the sorrounding streets and area,and not long after, a police dispatcher put out a description of the perp, as an NMA(negro male adult). But that description was somehow a mistake,and in reality, the perp was white,stocky, had a crewcut style haircut,and black horned rim glasses. Before the correction was made over the radio however, two police officers driving down nearby Jackson St, saw just such a man. They claim that they slowed down, took a good look at him, and since they were looking for a black male, they continued on. It was only a moment or two later that the Zodiac's description was corrected and broadcast over the police radio, and it was only then that the Officers realized that they had just seen the Zodiac. They went back, but he had now vanished into the night, probably in the wooded area sorrounding the military base, the Presidio. At the time of the murder, police had no idea that they were looking for the infamous Zodiac killer, and thought the attack was the result of a robbery gone wrong. All of that would change two days later.
On October 13, two days later, the Zodiac mailed a letter to the SF Chronicle detailing Stine's murder, and even including a bloody piece of Stine's shirt as proof he was the killer. Zodiac would also write that he actually was pulled over by police as he escaped on foot, and questioned. Police to this very day,deny that Zodiac was ever stopped by them. Although he was never caught, the infamous Zodiac sketch was the result of the police officer's, as well as the eye witness description of Zodiac.
Paul Stine's Cab, and the aftermath of his murder
Subscribe to:
Posts (Atom)